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it doesn't involve aliens at all it was

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stunningly McCleary he turned over to my

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father and held his hand and he looked

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hello and welcome to the show I'm Martyn

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Willis your host and we're coming at you

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we have a fun show for you this evening

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Alejandro Rojas from open minds is

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coming right up with the news and our

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guest tonight is Sheila Martin aka

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Sheila aliens on YouTube I will be

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having Andy Fleming on about once a

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month with a astronomy clip Andy's done

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that Andy and alright it's it's time to

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bring in Alejandro how are you good how

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are you doing great and I want to thank

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this is gonna be fun yeah I'm really

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the with the first story okay yeah the

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posting all of the latest that comes out

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of MUFON so we've posted a couple

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interesting things there one of them

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which has gotten the most hits is kind

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of interesting very short story and it

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was just a report from someone who said

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these UFOs and aliens and he said if the

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public knew what was at the base from

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the Roswell incident there would be a

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general panic amongst the public so that

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was kind of a neat story

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and it's just kind of fun because you

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know I don't know how you feel in that

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and be interesting to hear there's so

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much anecdotal stuff that comes along

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with Roswell so many people and

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wright-patterson talking about aliens

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and UFOs related to Roswell and those

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wright-patterson that it's kind of

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overwhelming we understand Gordon on

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last week and Kecksburg may have been

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brought over there not just Roswell

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talking about that and Ben Hansen

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grandfather might have something to do

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with bringing some material over there

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at one time this all all types of

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mystery about that yeah yeah Ben's a

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doesn't over embellish so yeah a lot of

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lot about wright-patterson and he's kind

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2015 and he talks about a lady named

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wright-patterson and she was an

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attractive young woman at the time and

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the guys used to come and flirt and she

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of stuff about UFOs and and it's really

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to impress them and yeah you know and I

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face myself so I know I've tripped over

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myself a few times so what else is going

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is something new they started doing last

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year at the symposium where their

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really photographic stories there but

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stuff but I think more interesting with

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this story comes some statistics for the

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second as far as as long as they've been

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interesting and they do break it down

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from shape so of course spherical and

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misidentification - way more than hoaxes

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three percent of them were closed as

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hoaxes only three percent boy yeah

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on more so it's just innocent

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know the YouTube videos and and my guest

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that oh yeah Sheila alien Jess she's

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frustrates her and it does all of us who

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are looking for legitimate information

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confronting I like that yeah that is

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breath of fresh air I think in this

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field so right um they also list the

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foreign reports which is interesting

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that you've probably heard about yes so

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than Mexico right but I guess that's a

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FILES which is really cool but just weak

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so they're doing a crop circle

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exhibition which is pretty neat because

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they're focusing on all of the beautiful

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pictures and everything they asked him

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exhibit even though of course crop

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but yeah this is kind of cool that they

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put together this exhibit and he gives

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some insight into that sort of on the

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fence with crop circles no you know I

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about yes yeah we've got good friends

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you know that there's no way that it has

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this is maybe a little loose but maybe

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not is balls of light even in that

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circle hoaxers and a lot of them talk

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about how when they create crop circles

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lights flying around and those have been

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always have to remember or a lot more

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possible explanations for UFOs and just

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extraterrestrials so that's right who

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knows what the heck some of these

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phenomena that we ascribe to the term

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UFO like balls of light who knows what

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possible yeah and they are something we

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just don't know what that is exactly so

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beam of light come from the sky in Crete

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when once so right very much so

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so yeah ballet I haven't heard it yet

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however I was already excited about him

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that some French gentleman did with him

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a lot of French UFO researchers they're

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associated with the website of these

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direct and a lot of very intelligent

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put it together and put it into English

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and then they sent it to us and asked us

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if we would like to post it and I was

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very enthusiastic to do so because you

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know ballet is one of the great minds in

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this field his life is so interesting

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regardless of the UFO phenomena having

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been a venture capitalist an astronomer

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or a computer specialist all of these

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things but but you know a couple of the

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comments I think at the points he made

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one of the points he made which I

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thought was really good which I think

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it's fair and you'd probably appreciate

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this is he talks about how a lot of

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people ascribe different phenomena to

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quantum physics and he points that we

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just don't know point out we don't know

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much about quantum physics and it seems

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like a lot of people then because we

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don't know much it's easy to just say oh

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that must be related to quantum physics

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and he's kind of criticizing that you

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know we don't know that and just because

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we don't it's kind of like dark matter

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just because we don't know what it is

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doesn't mean that it has anything to do

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with other phenomena that is unknown to

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us that's right and you know I I never

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really give a plug for other you know

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other shows and stuff but I gotta tell

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you for the listener out there if you

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want to check out coast to coast with

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the George Knapp and Jacques Foley as

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well as Lise Spiegel I'm telling you

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it's a great great UFO show mmm-hmm and

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I guess George Knapp told me today that

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he thinks Lee Spiegel is gonna write a

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story about the whole thing so I hope he

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does because interviews with Vallet are

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far and few between I got when I had

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been trying for years I got one about a

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year or so ago got him on the show and I

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don't know if I'll ever get one again

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but I wrote him a letter on cycle years

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ago right to his San Francisco address

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never heard from him he's you're right

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he's hard to get on the show hey well

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thanks so much

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alejandra I really appreciate it and

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we're looking forward to having you back

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next week

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yeah thanks remember open mindset TV

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there is a lot more just it's hard to

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get to all of it but if you want to read

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all any of

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stories and thanks so much for having me

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on and I guess I'll be talking to you

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next week

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you bet okay and now we're coming right

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up with Sheila Martin or should I say

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Sheila aliens

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how you doing Sheila I'm good are you

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doing good and for those live listeners

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out there don't forget to jump over in

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our chat room at podcast UFO comm it's

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real easy to sign in just two clicks and

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you're there Sheila welcome to the show

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hi Martin thanks mom yes

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you know I stumbled across your YouTube

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video you know kind of debunking not

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kind of debunking I mean you went you

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went you locked horns with Blake cousins

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and I loved it because the reason I

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found you is because I watched a couple

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of third phase of the Moon you know

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videos up on on YouTube and I went wait

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a minute wait a minute and and I

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realized it was a money game because you

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know they can make a lot of money when

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you have 160,000 followers you you make

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a ton of money off of youtube so it's a

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business and you confronted them all the

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way through and before we get into any

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of that let's talk about you and what

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sparked your interest and what made you

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figure this whole thing out okay well it

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started in Tucson Arizona

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where I grew up it's just there's a lot

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of weird things going on there it kind

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of woke me up I guess but before that

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since I was a child I've always been

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interested in all things paranormal and

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being in an area where I see things

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going on it just it all just happened

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like naturally yes yeah well yeah there

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is quite a bit going on out that way you

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know you you know you think about like

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the Phoenix lights and all all types of

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things you know you hear about you know

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the ancient Indian culture and how they

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had you know there

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some rock drawings out there and you

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know there's been you know it's there's

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been supposedly things going on out

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there for quite a while yeah and Sedona

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Arizona is out here Travis Walton was

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abducted from Arizona that's right

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snowflake yeah no yeah that's right

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so so you got interested in the subject

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young and then you got into looking at

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videos and checking things out and and

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then what made you decide to to really

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call these people out which I I applaud

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you for doing that by the way and I have

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no problem when someone is clouding up

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muddying up the waters of ufology to

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call them out on it and a lot of people

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get mad at me you know I mean every time

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I talk about dr. Steven Greer you know I

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make fun of him or whatever yeah yeah

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yeah

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you know you're not gonna hate me now

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are you no no he's funny he told me my

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name was an insult to the aliens my

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Sheila aliens name Wow yeah yeah but

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anyway you know when someone you know

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and you know going back years ago Greer

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you know did a great job with I want to

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say what was he had like up in

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Washington a UFO hmm I can't remember

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what it was called at the time Congress

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like a congress type of things yeah but

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he he actually did an excellent job and

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then something happened along the way

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and a lot of times it does seem to

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happen in this field where maybe its

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popularity

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maybe it's the thought of making money

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you know possibly I'm not really sure

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and it's kind of a joke because most

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people in the UFO world you know the

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real legit people make very little if

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any money at all that is correct it does

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seem like they start off with good

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intentions and then later on they end up

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going to the dark side and just putting

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out kind of useless content I was at the

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Hollywood premiere of his serious movie

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I'm

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and I wasn't impressed by it to be

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honest it was just stuff we all already

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know and tacked on with some other stuff

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that didn't make sense about the little

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atacama alien yes which is actually yeah

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that thing was I talked to the scientist

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who did the DNA testing and he's

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convinced it was human so that's amazing

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to me that's so cool that would make

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that like an eight inch tall human yeah

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and like six years old or something you

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know that is a great story all in itself

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but it was there was quite a claim to go

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way out there and say you know this was

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an alien being without you know having

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fax fax in Hannah's Stan Freeman would

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say yep I think it is a ploy to make

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money that's just how it goes for a lot

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of people and so while we're bashing

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serious the movie I want to say as

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Steven it was it was a movie about

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Steven Greer and in his and it's too

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sexy for their shirt bodyguards you know

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it was really yeah it was really it was

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all about him and you know the

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free-energy thing and you know I mean

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I'm not gonna go and you know keep keep

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bashing but it's just that you know it

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was a real ego movie that's it and it's

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very cliche to is 101 for some

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conspiracy theories along with you know

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everything about him

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yeah so Sheila up on the let's see how

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did Sheila talk to the scientists up on

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the message board we have a couple of a

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couple of our questions I was invited to

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go to that premiere by Fran Allison Cruz

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she's a UFO hunter from Pennsylvania I'm

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seeing UFOs PA is her Channel she's

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friends with that scientist and she

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invited me to the premiere and we had

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dinner with him I said you know I got to

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tell you a funny story I did a silly

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little and you can find it on YouTube a

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silly little karaoke song about the

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atacama baby and I call it something

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like like dr. Greer's YouTube I can't

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remember what it was a fundraising or

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something but anyway it's it's a lot of

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people get some laughs out of it and I

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sent it to him I sent it to the

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scientists you're talking about

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what is his name I can you recall his

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name after that I know him that's no no

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one okay I sent it to him and he loved

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it he loved the carrier I think yeah I'm

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he was a cool guy cool yeah guy he seems

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like it in the movie and another

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question up on the board that what is

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your two different people here but what

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is your opinion on James Fox and what is

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your opinion on Leslie Kane neither of

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those names mean anything to me at this

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point I can look into it though argue oh

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yeah yeah James Fox is the one he's a

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producer and he said he was in UFO not

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hunters UFO chasing UFOs and he was also

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in let's see he made some great great

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films and he's in the middle of making a

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really good one to call it I believe 701

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which is the blue Project Blue Book

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cases that were unexplained basically

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and he's a real real good documentary

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maker made out of the blue which I

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recommend to any listener out there is

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one of the best UFO movies in my opinion

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you'll see out there and Leslie Kane is

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a journalist and she is a journalist

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that has taken a real strong interest in

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UFOs and she's been a guest on the show

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many times and she studied the O'Hair

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incident and you know she does a real

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thorough very very thorough job I'd be

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happy to check those two out Leslie Kane

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and James Fox I'm gonna check them out

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and those are all topics that I'm very

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interested in myself so I'm sure fine

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whatever they're talking about

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interesting but I can't comment at this

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point in time I'm not sure yeah

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let's see let's go back to third phase

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of the Moon and what how did you get you

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were on their show it's or was it or did

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you talk to him off offline um they they

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invited me to be on their show and they

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kept bugging me about it I didn't want

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to at first I'm just gonna do it once

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and for all and just somebody has to do

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it

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to come back as a reoccurring guest they

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loved it probably because I've got the

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ratings or whatever but they have no

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shame they wanted me to come back and

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keep debunking them week after week are

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you serious know that and why did you

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bet

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oh yeah they wanted me to be a

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reoccurring guest yeah you know I I bet

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you know with one of their videos you

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know in the they've you in the millions

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I bet they're they're they're making six

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figures off their YouTube channel per

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year yeah over a hundred thousand

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subscribers so yeah they're probably

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making good money yeah and yeah and the

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thing I like testing yeah I liked the

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way you never back down to them and I I

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just can't get over the fact that they

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actually invited you back that that is a

541
00:23:14,230 --> 00:23:12,800
riot because up I saw the way yeah you

542
00:23:16,420 --> 00:23:14,240
know you confronted them and if it were

543
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:16,430
me I would like I would have stopped the

544
00:23:24,700 --> 00:23:22,610
show if I worth it no no you exactly

545
00:23:27,370 --> 00:23:24,710
call them on exactly what they were

546
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:27,380
doing yeah the thing is they don't have

547
00:23:31,660 --> 00:23:29,090
shame it doesn't affect them whatsoever

548
00:23:34,150 --> 00:23:31,670
they love it I think I think sometimes

549
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:34,160
that they think it's a joke like the way

550
00:23:37,360 --> 00:23:35,930
that you'll see them in their own videos

551
00:23:40,150 --> 00:23:37,370
or one of them will be in the video

552
00:23:41,860 --> 00:23:40,160
because they're twins right and it just

553
00:23:43,870 --> 00:23:41,870
seems like they're almost joking the way

554
00:23:46,270 --> 00:23:43,880
that they talk I don't know it's a joke

555
00:23:48,250 --> 00:23:46,280
to them for sure they wanted me to keep

556
00:23:50,140 --> 00:23:48,260
coming back just to debunk them so they

557
00:23:53,590 --> 00:23:50,150
could get more views yeah that's

558
00:23:55,210 --> 00:23:53,600
probably right just like Barnum PT

559
00:23:57,820 --> 00:23:55,220
Barnum used to say good bad or

560
00:24:03,610 --> 00:23:57,830
indifferent publicity as publicity and

561
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:03,620
yeah yeah so now I also found on your

562
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:05,450
Facebook page or I believe it's on your

563
00:24:08,890 --> 00:24:06,050
Facebook page

564
00:24:10,810 --> 00:24:08,900
it has your list to verify blacklisted

565
00:24:14,620 --> 00:24:10,820
hoax channels on YouTube can you go over

566
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:14,630
that sure those are channels that are

567
00:24:19,690 --> 00:24:17,330
known to have hopes videos and many of

568
00:24:22,900 --> 00:24:19,700
them are connected with one another and

569
00:24:25,180 --> 00:24:22,910
set up by the same people I look I found

570
00:24:25,830 --> 00:24:25,190
a lot of them through going to the hoax

571
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:25,840
killer

572
00:24:30,210 --> 00:24:27,890
com they have

573
00:24:33,700 --> 00:24:30,220
forms and they they just intricately

574
00:24:36,070 --> 00:24:33,710
debunk these channels on a visual aspect

575
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:36,080
like they'd analyze the video itself and

576
00:24:41,950 --> 00:24:38,330
then the audio sometimes it catches them

577
00:24:43,540 --> 00:24:41,960
that way and they can find out that this

578
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:43,550
person owns that channel in that channel

579
00:24:48,670 --> 00:24:45,770
so they they put it all together so I

580
00:24:50,650 --> 00:24:48,680
just added it to a list I see this is

581
00:24:52,900 --> 00:24:50,660
good to know yeah yeah there's a lot out

582
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:52,910
there I know you know I've talked many

583
00:24:59,080 --> 00:24:55,010
times on this show over and over again

584
00:25:01,390 --> 00:24:59,090
about and I'm not sure I know that we

585
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:01,400
were having Skype trouble excuse me at

586
00:25:06,490 --> 00:25:03,290
the beginning of the show but when I was

587
00:25:10,150 --> 00:25:06,500
talking to Alejandro Rojas he was saying

588
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:10,160
that only 3% of MUFON sightings that are

589
00:25:16,360 --> 00:25:12,890
reported are hoaxes which to me I had no

590
00:25:21,670 --> 00:25:16,370
idea it was that low and but when you go

591
00:25:24,460 --> 00:25:21,680
on YouTube I would say 75 to 80% of the

592
00:25:26,230 --> 00:25:24,470
UFO videos are hoaxed you know I'm just

593
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:26,240
throwing out a raw number I don't know

594
00:25:32,050 --> 00:25:29,690
but yeah that makes sense to me though

595
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:32,060
because nobody really knows about the

596
00:25:36,370 --> 00:25:34,010
MUFON reporting system and that they can

597
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:36,380
upload their videos there so if they do

598
00:25:39,610 --> 00:25:38,210
I've loaded they're you know it's

599
00:25:42,220 --> 00:25:39,620
because they had a sighting or they

600
00:25:46,330 --> 00:25:42,230
think they had a sighting but on YouTube

601
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:46,340
you know just spam that sound that sound

602
00:25:56,050 --> 00:25:53,860
no no I I heard a fire engine go by

603
00:25:58,720 --> 00:25:56,060
you're right now yeah you're right in

604
00:26:00,090 --> 00:25:58,730
the West Coast you're do do we say where

605
00:26:01,990 --> 00:26:00,100
you are do you want to say where you are

606
00:26:04,450 --> 00:26:02,000
that's fine I'm in West Hollywood

607
00:26:07,870 --> 00:26:04,460
California and you move there from

608
00:26:08,890 --> 00:26:07,880
Phoenix how long ago I moved from Tucson

609
00:26:14,170 --> 00:26:08,900
about a year and a half ago

610
00:26:15,340 --> 00:26:14,180
I'm sorry Tucson and yeah and let me

611
00:26:19,750 --> 00:26:15,350
just ask you something

612
00:26:22,120 --> 00:26:19,760
when you were in say Arizona did you

613
00:26:24,610 --> 00:26:22,130
connect with any people other than the

614
00:26:28,390 --> 00:26:24,620
internet that had you know that shared

615
00:26:29,890 --> 00:26:28,400
your fascination at all actually you

616
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:29,900
know I didn't I didn't get a chance to

617
00:26:34,660 --> 00:26:32,090
do that because I'm nobody there that I

618
00:26:36,970 --> 00:26:34,670
knew of I'm really into that type of

619
00:26:39,910 --> 00:26:36,980
thing I'm like out here I've already met

620
00:26:41,260 --> 00:26:39,920
a couple people who are in you know kind

621
00:26:43,930 --> 00:26:41,270
of big names in that

622
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:43,940
realm of things but no long tucson yeah

623
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:48,050
I know I would pardon me I went to a

624
00:26:54,150 --> 00:26:49,970
really good place to find people like

625
00:26:57,820 --> 00:26:54,160
that though locally is actually Facebook

626
00:26:59,650 --> 00:26:57,830
pardon me everyone yep I didn't have a

627
00:27:01,930 --> 00:26:59,660
Facebook channel or a Facebook page

628
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:01,940
until like after my channel had already

629
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:08,930
gotten terminated on YouTube yeah right

630
00:27:13,630 --> 00:27:12,290
right okay now I have your your page up

631
00:27:16,420 --> 00:27:13,640
right now and you know what I'm going to

632
00:27:19,060 --> 00:27:16,430
read to the listening audience some of

633
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:19,070
the channels here that you called out as

634
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:22,250
hoaxers just so you know I think it's

635
00:27:26,830 --> 00:27:24,650
it's it never hurts to get this you know

636
00:27:28,780 --> 00:27:26,840
it's a negative thing but in my opinion

637
00:27:31,870 --> 00:27:28,790
it never hurts to get this type of news

638
00:27:33,670 --> 00:27:31,880
out there so third phases phase of the

639
00:27:36,250 --> 00:27:33,680
Moon we've already we've already just

640
00:27:39,340 --> 00:27:36,260
discussed that another these are all

641
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:39,350
YouTube channels I believe and maybe

642
00:27:45,220 --> 00:27:40,730
some of them are internet you can

643
00:27:47,290 --> 00:27:45,230
correct me and destination unknown about

644
00:27:48,580 --> 00:27:47,300
the channel that's a channel okay and

645
00:27:51,310 --> 00:27:48,590
I'm just going to go over these and you

646
00:27:57,100 --> 00:27:51,320
can just say say what they are

647
00:28:00,520 --> 00:27:57,110
xxx donuts with the Z xxx UFO book UFO

648
00:28:06,970 --> 00:28:00,530
FILES TV crazy breaking news eight

649
00:28:11,350 --> 00:28:06,980
eleven eight secret science TV seven th

650
00:28:13,780 --> 00:28:11,360
area is that all the same person I think

651
00:28:18,130 --> 00:28:13,790
so if I need to take a look at my list

652
00:28:20,740 --> 00:28:18,140
but yeah yeah yeah I think that's all

653
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:20,750
the same person um yeah those are all

654
00:28:29,980 --> 00:28:23,930
YouTube channel names yep and IMAX cache

655
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:29,990
that sounds like a hoax yeah Omega UFO

656
00:28:36,940 --> 00:28:34,610
Channel galaxy music 69 this is for

657
00:28:39,970 --> 00:28:36,950
everyone to listen out there if you're

658
00:28:43,270 --> 00:28:39,980
if you like to watch the videos she has

659
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:43,280
checked these out thoroughly the UFO the

660
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:46,970
apology TV they let's say they were

661
00:28:53,370 --> 00:28:48,770
found guilty of taking an old rocket

662
00:28:55,100 --> 00:28:53,380
launch and labeling it as a new UFO okay

663
00:28:59,600 --> 00:28:55,110
Steven

664
00:29:01,130 --> 00:28:59,610
a d gu k you'd have to look at this I'm

665
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:01,140
actually if it's okay with you I'm gonna

666
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:02,970
post this up under the show notes this

667
00:29:08,630 --> 00:29:06,570
list okay Stephen Hanna is pretty well

668
00:29:11,779 --> 00:29:08,640
known I think he has a podcast even a

669
00:29:14,750 --> 00:29:11,789
website so oh is that right on UFOs or

670
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:14,760
in paranormal in general um basically

671
00:29:19,130 --> 00:29:17,370
just leeches off at other people's stuff

672
00:29:21,470 --> 00:29:19,140
and then he also post hoaxes and

673
00:29:24,139 --> 00:29:21,480
misidentified purposefully mislabeled

674
00:29:27,740 --> 00:29:24,149
videos and stuff like that I got it I

675
00:29:34,730 --> 00:29:27,750
don't know and then we have a Jake as I

676
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:34,740
saw of him Jake cotton jc8 ET e ra okay

677
00:29:47,419 --> 00:29:40,130
um yeah and we have J frizz na sky-quake

678
00:29:48,919 --> 00:29:47,429
2012 hue 70 people okay so I don't want

679
00:29:50,539 --> 00:29:48,929
to spend too much time in this but I

680
00:29:55,039 --> 00:29:50,549
just wanted to get those names out there

681
00:29:57,169 --> 00:29:55,049
for for the people and again if you're

682
00:30:01,190 --> 00:29:57,179
listening live you can jump in on our

683
00:30:04,730 --> 00:30:01,200
chat room at podcast UFO calm and ask

684
00:30:07,100 --> 00:30:04,740
Sheila a question here's one up on the

685
00:30:09,620 --> 00:30:07,110
message board and I don't exactly know

686
00:30:12,019 --> 00:30:09,630
what this means but I'm gonna read it

687
00:30:19,759 --> 00:30:12,029
anyway have you seen the mega deaf guy

688
00:30:21,919 --> 00:30:19,769
new vid mega oh yeah okay it's the I

689
00:30:25,490 --> 00:30:21,929
guess the singer from Megadeth I think

690
00:30:30,289 --> 00:30:25,500
it was um he recorded what's supposed to

691
00:30:31,639 --> 00:30:30,299
be some UFOs on what night was it the

692
00:30:34,129 --> 00:30:31,649
night of the full moon I think was July

693
00:30:38,149 --> 00:30:34,139
13th and it's ridiculous I think it's

694
00:30:40,009 --> 00:30:38,159
just a straight-up CGI fake it's pretty

695
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:40,019
bad footage but yeah I don't get what

696
00:30:44,629 --> 00:30:41,730
he's doing there may be a PR stunt

697
00:30:47,169 --> 00:30:44,639
oh okay another question up there have

698
00:30:50,450 --> 00:30:47,179
you ever had any sightings of your own I

699
00:30:52,820 --> 00:30:50,460
have I don't know but the listeners know

700
00:30:55,730 --> 00:30:52,830
that I started off as a UFO hunter for

701
00:30:58,190 --> 00:30:55,740
three years when I lived in Tucson so I

702
00:30:59,899 --> 00:30:58,200
just I would hunt UFOs every night and

703
00:31:02,389 --> 00:30:59,909
upload them so yes I've had plenty of

704
00:31:03,500 --> 00:31:02,399
sightings myself oh and what type what

705
00:31:07,039 --> 00:31:03,510
would you see lights in the sky or

706
00:31:09,050 --> 00:31:07,049
something yeah and well they come in

707
00:31:10,940 --> 00:31:09,060
many different type of forms but they

708
00:31:12,860 --> 00:31:10,950
the orbs that have really talks about

709
00:31:14,500 --> 00:31:12,870
there's a lot of those over there in

710
00:31:19,430 --> 00:31:14,510
Tucson as well as what looked like

711
00:31:24,740 --> 00:31:19,440
military aircraft like special secret

712
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:24,750
type of aircraft possibly so orbs yeah

713
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:27,570
now other any other any military bases

714
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:30,930
nearby there's the davis-monthan Air

715
00:31:37,730 --> 00:31:34,170
Force Base 13 miles away and 70 miles

716
00:31:39,890 --> 00:31:37,740
away is Fort Huachuca Arizona uh-huh

717
00:31:43,870 --> 00:31:39,900
there's a question up there asking if

718
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:43,880
you were hunting for let's see

719
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:46,290
hunting for what group I'm not really

720
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:47,970
sure what that means I'm sorry about

721
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:52,530
that okay so when you were doing this

722
00:31:58,850 --> 00:31:54,890
did you do this by yourself

723
00:32:02,240 --> 00:31:58,860
um 90% of the time I was yeah just by

724
00:32:03,950 --> 00:32:02,250
myself at night she's on Arizona I had

725
00:32:06,530 --> 00:32:03,960
to do is open my front door because the

726
00:32:08,510 --> 00:32:06,540
apartment I ended up living in just had

727
00:32:10,150 --> 00:32:08,520
a bird's-eye view of this mountain and

728
00:32:13,070 --> 00:32:10,160
everything was just right in front of me

729
00:32:15,470 --> 00:32:13,080
now they always a lot of times you hear

730
00:32:17,750 --> 00:32:15,480
about strange lights and orbs and things

731
00:32:20,270 --> 00:32:17,760
like that a lot of times when there's

732
00:32:28,370 --> 00:32:20,280
mountains around and there's some people

733
00:32:29,810 --> 00:32:28,380
theorize encoder izing that it might

734
00:32:32,630 --> 00:32:29,820
have to do with some type of metal

735
00:32:35,270 --> 00:32:32,640
deposits in the mountains that like a

736
00:32:37,700 --> 00:32:35,280
natural type phenomena and I I could

737
00:32:40,250 --> 00:32:37,710
believe it except them the only thing

738
00:32:42,530 --> 00:32:40,260
that I don't believe is some Naturals

739
00:32:44,690 --> 00:32:42,540
when these things make zigzags and

740
00:32:46,820 --> 00:32:44,700
unstrained you know really strange moves

741
00:32:49,070 --> 00:32:46,830
and then shoot off in the distance real

742
00:32:51,350 --> 00:32:49,080
fast that that can't be plasma is

743
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:51,360
something else you know I think that

744
00:32:57,860 --> 00:32:56,250
theory is a complete reach because I've

745
00:32:59,600 --> 00:32:57,870
seen the experiment carried out where

746
00:33:01,220 --> 00:32:59,610
they rub the limestone together and it

747
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:01,230
makes a little glow but they have to

748
00:33:05,750 --> 00:33:02,850
have the lights off to even see it it

749
00:33:08,750 --> 00:33:05,760
doesn't make a orb that detaches and

750
00:33:10,340 --> 00:33:08,760
flies away so you know that there is

751
00:33:14,390 --> 00:33:10,350
just the reach I think I don't think it

752
00:33:16,550 --> 00:33:14,400
explains it uh-huh have there's another

753
00:33:18,890 --> 00:33:16,560
question up there do you know if there's

754
00:33:21,650 --> 00:33:18,900
any significance to the green fireballs

755
00:33:23,510 --> 00:33:21,660
did you see any green ones

756
00:33:26,150 --> 00:33:23,520
I haven't personally but online I've

757
00:33:28,370 --> 00:33:26,160
heard about them I think the green ones

758
00:33:30,590 --> 00:33:28,380
I forget how it goes but it'll tell you

759
00:33:33,350 --> 00:33:30,600
online there might be meteors or they

760
00:33:34,030 --> 00:33:33,360
could be re-entering satellites or space

761
00:33:36,590 --> 00:33:34,040
debris

762
00:33:40,100 --> 00:33:36,600
sometimes the metal will burn green or

763
00:33:42,260 --> 00:33:40,110
or any kind of special whatever the

764
00:33:46,490 --> 00:33:42,270
meteor might be composed of might also

765
00:33:49,190 --> 00:33:46,500
cause it to burn green yep now someone's

766
00:33:52,820 --> 00:33:49,200
asking if you had any plans to do any

767
00:33:54,590 --> 00:33:52,830
UFO hunting in California I'd love to

768
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:54,600
but right now I live in West Hollywood

769
00:34:00,620 --> 00:33:56,970
and the light pollution is gonna stay a

770
00:34:03,830 --> 00:34:00,630
little light pollution yeah at night

771
00:34:06,500 --> 00:34:03,840
they're just milky white bright with

772
00:34:07,910 --> 00:34:06,510
overcast it's weird so I can't do much

773
00:34:10,130 --> 00:34:07,920
with that at the moment and I'm also not

774
00:34:12,290 --> 00:34:10,140
mobile but as soon as I get a car up

775
00:34:15,110 --> 00:34:12,300
happily Drive outside the city a little

776
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:15,120
bit and without the camera you know it

777
00:34:18,950 --> 00:34:17,370
doesn't take all that much because you

778
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:18,960
know I've been in that and that whole

779
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:21,450
area you can get away from the light you

780
00:34:23,900 --> 00:34:22,530
know I think you have there's a couple

781
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:23,910
people in the message board that I think

782
00:34:29,540 --> 00:34:27,090
you know that are asking cuz somebody

783
00:34:31,390 --> 00:34:29,550
wrote Sheila actually used traffic cams

784
00:34:34,310 --> 00:34:31,400
at one point to check out UFOs

785
00:34:38,240 --> 00:34:34,320
she's also many of them - a good friend

786
00:34:40,700 --> 00:34:38,250
of mine - yeah that's how I got my start

787
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:40,710
I guess this has interviewed on the

788
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:42,090
local news station because of this

789
00:34:47,270 --> 00:34:44,010
because I was using the controlable

790
00:34:49,820 --> 00:34:47,280
webcams online better station downtown

791
00:34:51,020 --> 00:34:49,830
and Tucson as using those the UFO hunt

792
00:34:53,450 --> 00:34:51,030
because I didn't have my own camera and

793
00:34:55,430 --> 00:34:53,460
I would record the screen but you know

794
00:34:59,030 --> 00:34:55,440
looking back that was very in conclusion

795
00:35:02,060 --> 00:34:59,040
but you know the passion port started

796
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:02,070
right there Wow now there's there is a

797
00:35:09,380 --> 00:35:05,970
great video I have seen online of some

798
00:35:11,470 --> 00:35:09,390
type of cam I don't know if it's a

799
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:11,480
traffic cam or not but it looks down

800
00:35:17,180 --> 00:35:14,130
like over the hill toward the road and

801
00:35:22,220 --> 00:35:17,190
it showed this it's great it's one of

802
00:35:24,710 --> 00:35:22,230
the best videos of like an object that

803
00:35:26,630 --> 00:35:24,720
that like floats over and then stops and

804
00:35:28,310 --> 00:35:26,640
then a little object comes out of it I'm

805
00:35:33,020 --> 00:35:28,320
not sure if you've ever seen that online

806
00:35:34,430 --> 00:35:33,030
somewhere but maybe I don't know if

807
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:34,440
you're talking about this

808
00:35:40,190 --> 00:35:36,930
terajima was there like smoke or

809
00:35:43,190 --> 00:35:40,200
anything that could have been I haven't

810
00:35:45,500 --> 00:35:43,200
seen it for quite quite a while I'm sure

811
00:35:47,809 --> 00:35:45,510
I've seen that I'm just not sure exactly

812
00:35:50,569 --> 00:35:47,819
which one do you mean yeah oh yeah I

813
00:35:53,510 --> 00:35:50,579
know I mean there's so many like I said

814
00:35:55,940 --> 00:35:53,520
yeah would you sort of agree with me

815
00:35:58,160 --> 00:35:55,950
when I'm I'm saying the do you think I'm

816
00:35:59,450 --> 00:35:58,170
off when I'm saying that about 75% of

817
00:36:04,819 --> 00:35:59,460
them are hoaxes do you think it's a lot

818
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:04,829
less I mean on YouTube on YouTube I

819
00:36:09,410 --> 00:36:06,210
think nowadays that's pretty accurate

820
00:36:11,599 --> 00:36:09,420
that is that's true on all the ones that

821
00:36:13,609 --> 00:36:11,609
get the most views on hoaxes but you

822
00:36:16,010 --> 00:36:13,619
know there are some UFO Hunters that

823
00:36:17,390 --> 00:36:16,020
regularly post their videos all the time

824
00:36:18,740 --> 00:36:17,400
and they don't get many views and

825
00:36:21,650 --> 00:36:18,750
they're out there and they have good

826
00:36:23,539 --> 00:36:21,660
equipment and everything but the hoaxes

827
00:36:25,279 --> 00:36:23,549
are the loudest ones because there are

828
00:36:27,349 --> 00:36:25,289
people out there there that are

829
00:36:29,779 --> 00:36:27,359
interested in making money off of that

830
00:36:36,140 --> 00:36:29,789
so of course they're gonna start doing

831
00:36:39,829 --> 00:36:36,150
that right right I often wonder what

832
00:36:41,299 --> 00:36:39,839
what it is that makes someone you know

833
00:36:43,190 --> 00:36:41,309
besides them you know of course we talk

834
00:36:44,450 --> 00:36:43,200
about people that are making money off

835
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:44,460
the videos because they have so many

836
00:36:48,890 --> 00:36:46,650
people watching the videos but for the

837
00:36:51,019 --> 00:36:48,900
average Joe out there what type of

838
00:36:51,500 --> 00:36:51,029
thrill I mean have you thought about

839
00:36:52,940 --> 00:36:51,510
that

840
00:36:55,970 --> 00:36:52,950
what type of thrill does someone have to

841
00:36:58,430 --> 00:36:55,980
get is that they're trying to appear

842
00:37:01,490 --> 00:36:58,440
like superior that they can fool

843
00:37:05,599 --> 00:37:01,500
everybody or I just don't get why hoax

844
00:37:07,730 --> 00:37:05,609
is hoax nowadays I think it it literally

845
00:37:09,349 --> 00:37:07,740
just has to do with Adsense and placing

846
00:37:12,289 --> 00:37:09,359
ads on their videos to make the money

847
00:37:17,059 --> 00:37:12,299
but prior to that it might have been for

848
00:37:19,190 --> 00:37:17,069
no duration or a notoriety I mean you

849
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:19,200
know popular popularity and in the case

850
00:37:24,349 --> 00:37:22,170
of third place of moon they they think

851
00:37:25,609 --> 00:37:24,359
they fancied themselves actors and I

852
00:37:28,609 --> 00:37:25,619
think maybe they might want to land a

853
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:28,619
gig or something so everybody's got an

854
00:37:34,910 --> 00:37:33,210
agenda right yeah you know someone asked

855
00:37:37,519 --> 00:37:34,920
I don't even know if you would even know

856
00:37:38,839 --> 00:37:37,529
what this is but did you someone's

857
00:37:44,380 --> 00:37:38,849
asking if you know anything about a

858
00:37:48,020 --> 00:37:44,390
giant bird over the fire in Colorado oh

859
00:37:51,350 --> 00:37:48,030
yes a video I posted a couple years ago

860
00:37:54,950 --> 00:37:51,360
of a fire in Colorado it was a forest

861
00:37:56,630 --> 00:37:54,960
fire and there's a night vision video of

862
00:37:59,120 --> 00:37:56,640
I guess but it's during the daytime

863
00:38:01,900 --> 00:37:59,130
infrared during the day and I guess it

864
00:38:05,570 --> 00:38:01,910
looked like a gigantic bird sized thing

865
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:05,580
flew over the fire but nowadays I would

866
00:38:10,730 --> 00:38:08,330
say that video is just inconclusive I

867
00:38:12,860 --> 00:38:10,740
maybe it was a pterodactyl maybe it was

868
00:38:15,050 --> 00:38:12,870
a bluebird I don't know yeah you know

869
00:38:17,330 --> 00:38:15,060
it's funny you hear about these people

870
00:38:19,220 --> 00:38:17,340
sometimes will say you know they think

871
00:38:21,530 --> 00:38:19,230
they saw something like a pterodactyl or

872
00:38:22,970 --> 00:38:21,540
something that's it's bizarre you know

873
00:38:25,820 --> 00:38:22,980
you know they have a lot of pterodactyl

874
00:38:29,030 --> 00:38:25,830
sightings out here my significant other

875
00:38:31,370 --> 00:38:29,040
has actually he claims he saw one with

876
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:31,380
his friend believe you're not Pacific

877
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:35,850
Palisades pterodactyl sightings I would

878
00:38:42,170 --> 00:38:39,930
love to that would be so fun yeah that's

879
00:38:44,090 --> 00:38:42,180
a real thing it's a real thing it's so

880
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:44,100
funny and people are actually claiming

881
00:38:49,790 --> 00:38:46,050
they're actually seeing these things and

882
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:49,800
I wonder what exactly it is you know I

883
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:52,170
mean I I don't know if I could quite by

884
00:38:57,260 --> 00:38:54,450
the fact that it's an actual pterodactyl

885
00:38:59,120 --> 00:38:57,270
but you know it's fine you know but

886
00:39:01,010 --> 00:38:59,130
there's some reason for some reason it's

887
00:39:05,030 --> 00:39:01,020
it happens right in the same area in

888
00:39:07,270 --> 00:39:05,040
Griffith Park and Pacific Palisades yeah

889
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:07,280
there's a bird or something that's not

890
00:39:16,450 --> 00:39:13,890
native no albatross someone wants to

891
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:16,460
know if you ever check Peter Davenport's

892
00:39:22,940 --> 00:39:20,090
website you know to cross-check reports

893
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:22,950
are you familiar with Peter Davenport he

894
00:39:30,290 --> 00:39:28,650
has the new fork in you fo are see I'm

895
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:30,300
familiar with that website but I don't I

896
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:32,370
don't check on his updates though yeah I

897
00:39:38,030 --> 00:39:34,890
mean you're not a person that like

898
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:38,040
checks so much on updates of what's

899
00:39:42,770 --> 00:39:39,930
happening as far as sightings go you're

900
00:39:43,940 --> 00:39:42,780
more or less looking at the videos and

901
00:39:46,550 --> 00:39:43,950
kind of going through them and seeing

902
00:39:50,390 --> 00:39:46,560
what's what's appears to be right and

903
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:50,400
what is not is that no it's just that I

904
00:39:55,190 --> 00:39:53,010
consider myself sort of like a news

905
00:39:58,130 --> 00:39:55,200
aggregator so I don't really go to other

906
00:40:00,200 --> 00:39:58,140
news aggregators for anything like you

907
00:40:01,940 --> 00:40:00,210
know I'm just weird like that I just I

908
00:40:04,069 --> 00:40:01,950
just go and find whatever in

909
00:40:07,370 --> 00:40:04,079
just me at the moment and I go with that

910
00:40:09,140 --> 00:40:07,380
but I don't just you know look for

911
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:09,150
something to debunk I'm just interested

912
00:40:14,359 --> 00:40:12,210
all around yes

913
00:40:18,140 --> 00:40:14,369
I didn't mean to paint you that way

914
00:40:20,030 --> 00:40:18,150
because uh yeah I know that you know I

915
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:20,040
know you have been posting a lot longer

916
00:40:25,339 --> 00:40:22,410
before you started actually debunking

917
00:40:28,579 --> 00:40:25,349
people but it just shows that your your

918
00:40:30,109 --> 00:40:28,589
interests just grew you know and you

919
00:40:32,750 --> 00:40:30,119
just looked into things a little more

920
00:40:35,180 --> 00:40:32,760
serious and it just happens to be that a

921
00:40:37,130 --> 00:40:35,190
lot of things are you know a lot of

922
00:40:38,990 --> 00:40:37,140
things just need debunking or there's

923
00:40:41,569 --> 00:40:39,000
always something incorrect about what's

924
00:40:45,290 --> 00:40:41,579
being passed around as the truth I just

925
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:45,300
I just pointed out I know ya know I love

926
00:40:50,900 --> 00:40:48,690
that and I hope you continue to do that

927
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:50,910
and so just to let everyone know is

928
00:40:55,910 --> 00:40:52,650
listening live you can jump over to our

929
00:40:58,490 --> 00:40:55,920
chat room at podcast UFO calm and it's a

930
00:41:00,859 --> 00:40:58,500
one two click sign up you're in and you

931
00:41:04,970 --> 00:41:00,869
can ask Sheila question we have a number

932
00:41:07,460 --> 00:41:04,980
of people in there right now and so now

933
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:07,470
your your that's someone just said that

934
00:41:15,460 --> 00:41:10,770
it's not too far from the LA Zoo where

935
00:41:18,740 --> 00:41:15,470
where they're Pterodactylus is that true

936
00:41:20,210 --> 00:41:18,750
I don't know what that lady was in but

937
00:41:21,829 --> 00:41:20,220
yeah I don't doubt it

938
00:41:23,359 --> 00:41:21,839
I mean as far as people saying that

939
00:41:25,550 --> 00:41:23,369
that's where it is because that sounds

940
00:41:27,079 --> 00:41:25,560
like a pterodactyl would like to live

941
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:27,089
but I think people would have spotted it

942
00:41:31,910 --> 00:41:29,010
and got on camera by now

943
00:41:33,740 --> 00:41:31,920
yeah and they they they'd probably feed

944
00:41:38,690 --> 00:41:33,750
it to you know it get food over there I

945
00:41:41,059 --> 00:41:38,700
think so yeah yeah yeah so have you

946
00:41:43,819 --> 00:41:41,069
considered you know you have your own

947
00:41:46,430 --> 00:41:43,829
YouTube channel do you actually make

948
00:41:49,069 --> 00:41:46,440
videos or what you just the ones that

949
00:41:51,650 --> 00:41:49,079
I've seen up there or ones that you find

950
00:41:55,700 --> 00:41:51,660
in you post but do you ever make any

951
00:41:57,589 --> 00:41:55,710
videos yourself I do like I said I'm my

952
00:42:00,170 --> 00:41:57,599
original videos for the first couple

953
00:42:02,780 --> 00:42:00,180
years were just my raw UFO hunting

954
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:02,790
videos that I recorded but I kind of

955
00:42:06,770 --> 00:42:04,650
branched off into making videos about

956
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:06,780
everything that interests me

957
00:42:14,240 --> 00:42:09,450
conspiracies or strange happenings I'm

958
00:42:15,590 --> 00:42:14,250
very into like fireballs and cool

959
00:42:17,240 --> 00:42:15,600
looking clouds and we

960
00:42:19,750 --> 00:42:17,250
it's just anything interesting that

961
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:19,760
happens to happen that's a mystery

962
00:42:25,820 --> 00:42:23,370
nowadays I plan to start making more

963
00:42:28,250 --> 00:42:25,830
videos soon I just haven't had privacy

964
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:28,260
in about a year and a half due to my

965
00:42:33,140 --> 00:42:31,530
living situation but I'm moving yeah and

966
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:33,150
I just feel weird making videos with

967
00:42:36,740 --> 00:42:35,610
everybody around and stuff but yeah

968
00:42:39,260 --> 00:42:36,750
hopefully I'll be getting back into that

969
00:42:41,660 --> 00:42:39,270
I got a new laptop and I'll be getting

970
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:41,670
back into that but I used to own

971
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:43,890
compiled videos with different

972
00:42:49,730 --> 00:42:47,490
contributors that I found regarding one

973
00:42:51,860 --> 00:42:49,740
subject like I'll do a compilation video

974
00:42:53,210 --> 00:42:51,870
of a tornado that happened and I'll find

975
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:53,220
all these different perspectives and

976
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:54,690
views from different people that

977
00:42:58,280 --> 00:42:56,970
recorded it and I'll put it together and

978
00:43:00,920 --> 00:42:58,290
put their name in the corner you know

979
00:43:02,270 --> 00:43:00,930
when it's their clip so but after view

980
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:02,280
more careful these days because YouTube

981
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:04,650
took my main channel down a couple years

982
00:43:11,030 --> 00:43:07,770
ago for copyright oh my goodness up

983
00:43:15,650 --> 00:43:11,040
because you had other peoples I see yeah

984
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:15,660
yeah Disney and some other big name

985
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:16,650
company I can't remember

986
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:18,930
yeah Disney will do it that's for sure

987
00:43:25,610 --> 00:43:22,770
oh yeah yeah another question up on the

988
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:25,620
board here is there was an earthquake

989
00:43:29,690 --> 00:43:27,450
that happened in LA and it was a big one

990
00:43:31,850 --> 00:43:29,700
and there was a UFO spotted during that

991
00:43:35,090 --> 00:43:31,860
time did you ever know anything about

992
00:43:36,890 --> 00:43:35,100
that and if they're referring to the one

993
00:43:39,140 --> 00:43:36,900
that happened on my birthday was March

994
00:43:42,050 --> 00:43:39,150
17th it was the biggest one that's

995
00:43:43,820 --> 00:43:42,060
happened around here and some years or

996
00:43:46,580 --> 00:43:43,830
something like that but I didn't hear

997
00:43:48,740 --> 00:43:46,590
anything about a UFO being seen along

998
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:48,750
with that if he's referring to that one

999
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:52,290
uh-huh and someone wants to know what

1000
00:43:59,750 --> 00:43:56,090
your theory is on UFO I mean on

1001
00:44:01,730 --> 00:43:59,760
alien abductions I'm sorry there's a lot

1002
00:44:04,820 --> 00:44:01,740
of people in the chat room so the

1003
00:44:07,790 --> 00:44:04,830
messages are moving around fast no

1004
00:44:10,010 --> 00:44:07,800
problem and I believe that it's a real

1005
00:44:11,690 --> 00:44:10,020
phenomenon it's never happened to me but

1006
00:44:16,340 --> 00:44:11,700
I think it does happen to some people

1007
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:16,350
and I don't know maybe it is the gray

1008
00:44:21,650 --> 00:44:19,770
aliens abducting people who knows yeah

1009
00:44:23,300 --> 00:44:21,660
you know it was one of these subjects

1010
00:44:26,630 --> 00:44:23,310
when I started the show that I was

1011
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:26,640
totally on the fence on and then after

1012
00:44:29,030 --> 00:44:28,770
talking to people like Travis Walton and

1013
00:44:32,930 --> 00:44:29,040
if

1014
00:44:36,500 --> 00:44:32,940
you other people that I I totally

1015
00:44:38,510 --> 00:44:36,510
believe their story and you know I just

1016
00:44:43,220 --> 00:44:38,520
became a little more open-minded to it

1017
00:44:46,220 --> 00:44:43,230
that it's if there is indeed if we are

1018
00:44:47,570 --> 00:44:46,230
being visited what would we do if we

1019
00:44:51,140 --> 00:44:47,580
were visiting somewhere we did we'd

1020
00:44:53,300 --> 00:44:51,150
inspect you know the living creatures so

1021
00:44:56,570 --> 00:44:53,310
it's it certainly makes sense that it's

1022
00:44:58,730 --> 00:44:56,580
it's very possible and Travis's story

1023
00:45:01,340 --> 00:44:58,740
hasn't changed over all these years and

1024
00:45:03,260 --> 00:45:01,350
it is very compelling just you can just

1025
00:45:05,780 --> 00:45:03,270
tell you know he's telling the truth

1026
00:45:06,530 --> 00:45:05,790
so something weirds going on there sure

1027
00:45:08,420 --> 00:45:06,540
yeah

1028
00:45:10,940 --> 00:45:08,430
you know I sat right across from him and

1029
00:45:12,350 --> 00:45:10,950
talked to him and and you know I don't

1030
00:45:17,540 --> 00:45:12,360
have a doubt in my mind he's telling the

1031
00:45:20,570 --> 00:45:17,550
truth and it's a such a bizarre story it

1032
00:45:23,270 --> 00:45:20,580
is actually I'd like to have aliens come

1033
00:45:24,650 --> 00:45:23,280
visit me but they don't I know you made

1034
00:45:28,430 --> 00:45:24,660
your name like that and everything it

1035
00:45:31,250 --> 00:45:28,440
might work yeah maybe they won't be

1036
00:45:34,220 --> 00:45:31,260
insulted by it they might find you on

1037
00:45:38,390 --> 00:45:34,230
facebook hopefully hopefully they they

1038
00:45:42,890 --> 00:45:38,400
add me on Twitter so what do you think

1039
00:45:44,900 --> 00:45:42,900
what's the future of Shila aliens that's

1040
00:45:46,070 --> 00:45:44,910
what I'm trying to figure out or you

1041
00:45:48,020 --> 00:45:46,080
know I'm just waiting to see what

1042
00:45:50,030 --> 00:45:48,030
direction this goes I'm not sure I'm

1043
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:50,040
floating around in Hollywood I love it

1044
00:45:55,820 --> 00:45:52,530
here having a great time at the same

1045
00:45:58,100 --> 00:45:55,830
time it's not conducive to UFO hunting

1046
00:45:59,600 --> 00:45:58,110
until I guess get a vehicle or move

1047
00:46:01,550 --> 00:45:59,610
somewhere where there's not so much

1048
00:46:04,340 --> 00:46:01,560
light pollution but I can still make

1049
00:46:06,890 --> 00:46:04,350
other videos about other things maybe

1050
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:06,900
I'm not sure exactly what I'm gonna do

1051
00:46:11,390 --> 00:46:08,850
but I'm gonna start making my channel

1052
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:11,400
more active uploading more videos and

1053
00:46:18,980 --> 00:46:14,970
just see what happens well we have a we

1054
00:46:21,110 --> 00:46:18,990
have pam-pam z up on the message board

1055
00:46:26,810 --> 00:46:21,120
and she says that you need to get your

1056
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:26,820
own podcast me tells me that they tell

1057
00:46:32,330 --> 00:46:29,370
me that but I don't know I don't like to

1058
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:32,340
you know hear myself talk a lot yeah

1059
00:46:40,580 --> 00:46:36,690
well it's I think it'd be alright

1060
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:40,590
it would be fun actually yeah I mean I

1061
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:42,090
got all the topics in the world I can

1062
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:42,930
think of

1063
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:44,970
I just have to I guess get over my

1064
00:46:49,789 --> 00:46:47,010
shyness yeah there you go

1065
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:49,799
well you're doing fine well thank you

1066
00:46:56,299 --> 00:46:51,690
and someone says you need to be on TV

1067
00:46:58,940 --> 00:46:56,309
instead but okay so in the future you're

1068
00:47:01,819 --> 00:46:58,950
not really sure what what you're going

1069
00:47:03,650 --> 00:47:01,829
to be doing but I would say that there

1070
00:47:06,260 --> 00:47:03,660
are a number of like-minded people in

1071
00:47:08,029 --> 00:47:06,270
your your area you know you're not too

1072
00:47:12,349 --> 00:47:08,039
far from Steven Bassett do you know who

1073
00:47:16,250 --> 00:47:12,359
he is bound to know me but I know he's

1074
00:47:18,710 --> 00:47:16,260
been he's he's the only lobbyist that

1075
00:47:21,789 --> 00:47:18,720
has to do with the disclosure and the

1076
00:47:25,069 --> 00:47:21,799
UFO you know he's a Washington lobbyist

1077
00:47:28,670 --> 00:47:25,079
and he's right he's not too far away

1078
00:47:32,630 --> 00:47:28,680
from you and Yvonne Smith who's gonna be

1079
00:47:35,859 --> 00:47:32,640
a guest next week everyone she does

1080
00:47:38,089 --> 00:47:35,869
hypnotic regressions for you know

1081
00:47:40,609 --> 00:47:38,099
abductees and she's gonna be on our show

1082
00:47:42,230 --> 00:47:40,619
she lives up I've visited her when I was

1083
00:47:45,470 --> 00:47:42,240
out there she lives not too far away

1084
00:47:47,299 --> 00:47:45,480
from you as well yeah there's a lot of

1085
00:47:49,130 --> 00:47:47,309
people out here that are into that so I

1086
00:47:56,289 --> 00:47:49,140
was lucky to meet some of them at that

1087
00:47:59,990 --> 00:47:58,640
there was there's someone I think

1088
00:48:01,970 --> 00:48:00,000
they're asking a question are you

1089
00:48:03,710 --> 00:48:01,980
familiar with the person that claims

1090
00:48:13,130 --> 00:48:03,720
he's speaking to aliens through his cell

1091
00:48:17,150 --> 00:48:13,140
phone yeah okay so yeah that's up on the

1092
00:48:19,220 --> 00:48:17,160
message board okay I wish we could take

1093
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:19,230
calls if you want to ask Sheila

1094
00:48:24,109 --> 00:48:21,210
questioned go to our chat room on

1095
00:48:28,039 --> 00:48:24,119
podcast UFO calm and throw a question

1096
00:48:29,150 --> 00:48:28,049
out for Sheila if you'd like and I'm

1097
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:29,160
just trying to read there was quite a

1098
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:30,450
few of them that came in I'm just gonna

1099
00:48:38,359 --> 00:48:34,410
pull back and see if we have any more up

1100
00:48:40,309 --> 00:48:38,369
here and do you know calls mmm you know

1101
00:48:42,620 --> 00:48:40,319
the funny thing is I can take a call and

1102
00:48:45,319 --> 00:48:42,630
I can give out a number but as soon as I

1103
00:48:47,079 --> 00:48:45,329
do then I lose everyone I lose you and I

1104
00:48:50,289 --> 00:48:47,089
haven't been able to figure that out

1105
00:48:54,019 --> 00:48:50,299
yeah well we don't want that to happen

1106
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:54,029
certainly not yeah all right and we've

1107
00:49:00,670 --> 00:48:56,330
got about it looks like we've got

1108
00:49:02,860 --> 00:49:00,680
we're around ten minutes or so and so we

1109
00:49:08,050 --> 00:49:02,870
can move on to another subject we've

1110
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:08,060
we've talked about abductions and all

1111
00:49:13,570 --> 00:49:11,570
that and let's see Pam she wants to know

1112
00:49:18,010 --> 00:49:13,580
what you think about UFOs over volcanoes

1113
00:49:19,510 --> 00:49:18,020
I've familiar with that phenomenon I'm

1114
00:49:24,010 --> 00:49:19,520
sorry what was that UFOs over volcanoes

1115
00:49:26,980 --> 00:49:24,020
yes I am familiar with it and I think

1116
00:49:29,590 --> 00:49:26,990
they're just as UFO there's just as much

1117
00:49:31,660 --> 00:49:29,600
UFO activity surrounding volcanoes as

1118
00:49:34,290 --> 00:49:31,670
there are mountains and they do seem to

1119
00:49:37,330 --> 00:49:34,300
be attracted to both of those things

1120
00:49:39,910 --> 00:49:37,340
maybe it's the energy from the earth

1121
00:49:42,070 --> 00:49:39,920
releasing itself like the theory goes or

1122
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:42,080
maybe there's a reason that they are

1123
00:49:46,570 --> 00:49:44,570
attracted to those areas that's giving

1124
00:49:48,700 --> 00:49:46,580
you know them energy and there are

1125
00:49:50,790 --> 00:49:48,710
actually other beings you know or

1126
00:49:54,430 --> 00:49:50,800
they're being controlled by other beings

1127
00:49:57,190 --> 00:49:54,440
I think it's a legit phenomena and it

1128
00:49:59,770 --> 00:49:57,200
needs to be looked into more mm-hmm

1129
00:50:01,780 --> 00:49:59,780
another person wants to know do you have

1130
00:50:07,060 --> 00:50:01,790
any certain techniques or methods that

1131
00:50:09,730 --> 00:50:07,070
you use when your UFO hunting yeah well

1132
00:50:12,100 --> 00:50:09,740
I would just say be persistent first of

1133
00:50:14,890 --> 00:50:12,110
all and of course they say you know use

1134
00:50:18,190 --> 00:50:14,900
a tripod try to use a tripod if you can

1135
00:50:19,690 --> 00:50:18,200
but if you're you know you can't there's

1136
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:19,700
a lot of things you can't do if you have

1137
00:50:24,430 --> 00:50:21,290
it on a tripod so you're gonna have it

1138
00:50:28,240 --> 00:50:24,440
in your hand obviously keep it steady

1139
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:28,250
um don't keep it like make sure your

1140
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:30,170
camera is not on auto focus because what

1141
00:50:34,900 --> 00:50:32,330
you're trying to film is a UFO it's far

1142
00:50:36,460 --> 00:50:34,910
away and if you have our autofocus it's

1143
00:50:39,030 --> 00:50:36,470
going to focus on the closest thing to

1144
00:50:41,620 --> 00:50:39,040
your camera which might be a tree or

1145
00:50:45,100 --> 00:50:41,630
somebody's pant leg who knows so you

1146
00:50:49,690 --> 00:50:45,110
want to have it on manual focus or set

1147
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:49,700
to infinity also try to use night vision

1148
00:50:57,910 --> 00:50:53,570
if you can now design does that always

1149
00:50:59,800 --> 00:50:57,920
work for does that always work in like

1150
00:51:02,080 --> 00:50:59,810
to say if you see a light I just don't

1151
00:51:04,420 --> 00:51:02,090
I've never used it if you see a light as

1152
00:51:06,610 --> 00:51:04,430
the light actually show real like real

1153
00:51:09,670 --> 00:51:06,620
green I mean if you don't use it can you

1154
00:51:10,150 --> 00:51:09,680
still get an image it depends on the

1155
00:51:13,270 --> 00:51:10,160
camera

1156
00:51:16,240 --> 00:51:13,280
using but like with my Sony Handycam it

1157
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:16,250
has a night shot mode and until you flip

1158
00:51:22,059 --> 00:51:18,410
it on the light might just look like a

1159
00:51:24,099 --> 00:51:22,069
speck of light on black and then you

1160
00:51:26,740 --> 00:51:24,109
turn it on and it illuminates the trees

1161
00:51:28,809 --> 00:51:26,750
it illuminates everything if it's a

1162
00:51:30,849 --> 00:51:28,819
certain type of night vision it'll be

1163
00:51:33,849 --> 00:51:30,859
green it doesn't have to be green though

1164
00:51:36,279 --> 00:51:33,859
I'm not I forget why exactly some night

1165
00:51:38,829 --> 00:51:36,289
vision is green but in some infrared

1166
00:51:41,650 --> 00:51:38,839
cameras are just like whitewashed and

1167
00:51:48,670 --> 00:51:41,660
there's other versions of that as well

1168
00:51:50,020 --> 00:51:48,680
so okay we let's see Keith if you're

1169
00:51:53,470 --> 00:51:50,030
listening are we having trouble with

1170
00:51:56,740 --> 00:51:53,480
Skype right now I'm sorry everyone okay

1171
00:51:58,960 --> 00:51:56,750
we're all set and have you ever tried to

1172
00:52:02,799 --> 00:51:58,970
interact with any UFOs this is a

1173
00:52:07,779 --> 00:52:02,809
question up on the board like oh okay go

1174
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:07,789
ahead yeah I would always I would always

1175
00:52:11,710 --> 00:52:09,650
like ask them whoever they are to show

1176
00:52:13,690 --> 00:52:11,720
me something I hadn't seen before and

1177
00:52:15,940 --> 00:52:13,700
then I would have an amazing siding or

1178
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:15,950
you know they seem to be interacting

1179
00:52:21,329 --> 00:52:19,010
with me a couple times and I don't

1180
00:52:23,559 --> 00:52:21,339
recommend this I shined a green laser

1181
00:52:25,510 --> 00:52:23,569
you know that's what I was going to ask

1182
00:52:28,299 --> 00:52:25,520
you if you did that's like that but you

1183
00:52:31,510 --> 00:52:28,309
really shouldn't do that thing um yeah I

1184
00:52:33,130 --> 00:52:31,520
would mentally I think possibly

1185
00:52:38,019 --> 00:52:33,140
communicate with these things and they

1186
00:52:42,460 --> 00:52:38,029
seem to be reciprocating uh-huh okay and

1187
00:52:44,980 --> 00:52:42,470
let's say someone wants to know have has

1188
00:52:49,019 --> 00:52:44,990
anyone has any men in black ever messed

1189
00:52:50,620 --> 00:52:49,029
with you no I never have had that happen

1190
00:52:53,019 --> 00:52:50,630
amazingly huh

1191
00:52:54,849 --> 00:52:53,029
yeah okay we have five minutes just to

1192
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:54,859
let you know to wrap up the show do you

1193
00:53:00,190 --> 00:52:56,930
you don't have a website have you ever

1194
00:53:01,930 --> 00:53:00,200
thought of getting a website I didn't

1195
00:53:04,599 --> 00:53:01,940
think about it well I mean actually I'm

1196
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:04,609
sorry I had one for a while um Sheila

1197
00:53:09,370 --> 00:53:07,490
aliens net but I just couldn't keep up

1198
00:53:14,079 --> 00:53:09,380
with it it was just too much it was

1199
00:53:15,730 --> 00:53:14,089
posted on Facebook Twitter YouTube and a

1200
00:53:18,099 --> 00:53:15,740
website just seems like a lot of trouble

1201
00:53:20,650 --> 00:53:18,109
for something I'm doing for free or

1202
00:53:22,900 --> 00:53:20,660
whatever which you know is just lazy I

1203
00:53:24,039 --> 00:53:22,910
don't know that's a lot to do believe me

1204
00:53:26,919 --> 00:53:24,049
I your

1205
00:53:29,019 --> 00:53:26,929
about that yeah you know like after the

1206
00:53:31,329 --> 00:53:29,029
show tonight I'll spend an hour or two

1207
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:31,339
hours you know getting getting working

1208
00:53:37,150 --> 00:53:33,170
on this website so what do you think

1209
00:53:38,739 --> 00:53:37,160
about the Malstrom airbase disabling of

1210
00:53:40,390 --> 00:53:38,749
the nuclear warheads have you ever

1211
00:53:43,449 --> 00:53:40,400
looked into any of that these are

1212
00:53:44,709 --> 00:53:43,459
questions that are coming up I I don't

1213
00:53:45,819 --> 00:53:44,719
know if you know any of these things or

1214
00:53:47,919 --> 00:53:45,829
not but these are questions that are

1215
00:53:50,799 --> 00:53:47,929
coming up in the chat room yeah I've

1216
00:53:53,650 --> 00:53:50,809
heard of that and I don't know the exact

1217
00:53:56,829 --> 00:53:53,660
details but yeah the-- they say that UFO

1218
00:53:57,910 --> 00:53:56,839
is disabled nuclear warheads and they

1219
00:54:01,269 --> 00:53:57,920
really don't have any other explanation

1220
00:54:02,919 --> 00:54:01,279
for it and there's UFO sightings that

1221
00:54:08,529 --> 00:54:02,929
went along with it

1222
00:54:10,569 --> 00:54:08,539
I think if it's true then maybe they're

1223
00:54:13,630 --> 00:54:10,579
just trying to you know save the planet

1224
00:54:16,089 --> 00:54:13,640
or something yeah you know I've talked

1225
00:54:19,359 --> 00:54:16,099
with Robert Hastings who's done

1226
00:54:21,849 --> 00:54:19,369
extensive research on on that and

1227
00:54:27,809 --> 00:54:21,859
written books and or at least one I

1228
00:54:30,849 --> 00:54:27,819
think at least one book and okay so he

1229
00:54:33,729 --> 00:54:30,859
he thinks that that's exactly the reason

1230
00:54:36,189 --> 00:54:33,739
why is they're trying to you know trying

1231
00:54:39,789 --> 00:54:36,199
to stop us from blowing ourselves up and

1232
00:54:44,019 --> 00:54:39,799
we need that that would make sense yeah

1233
00:54:46,059 --> 00:54:44,029
she people don't go to Sheila aliens

1234
00:54:50,859 --> 00:54:46,069
calm because I don't own that site some

1235
00:54:52,539 --> 00:54:50,869
other guy owns Sheila enough well you

1236
00:54:54,939 --> 00:54:52,549
can go to facebook.com slash Sheila

1237
00:54:56,439 --> 00:54:54,949
alien with no ass at the end okay is

1238
00:55:07,419 --> 00:54:56,449
that an alien in the background or the

1239
00:55:10,839 --> 00:55:07,429
parrot oh yeah okay alright she let well

1240
00:55:14,799 --> 00:55:10,849
thanks so much and just quickly go ahead

1241
00:55:16,870 --> 00:55:14,809
and either you or the parrot can tell us

1242
00:55:25,569 --> 00:55:16,880
how to find you on facebook or your

1243
00:55:29,169 --> 00:55:25,579
YouTube channel Sheila alien my youtube

1244
00:55:31,809 --> 00:55:29,179
channel is also Sheila alien my twitter

1245
00:55:35,529 --> 00:55:31,819
is Sheila aliens which is how it should

1246
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:35,539
be with an S at the end and that's about

1247
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:37,530
it Sheila aliens at yahoo.com

1248
00:55:41,990 --> 00:55:39,210
you get a hold of me okay all right

1249
00:55:43,970 --> 00:55:42,000
thanks a lot Sheila and Thank You Martin

1250
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:43,980
yeah it's been a real pleasure well

1251
00:55:47,990 --> 00:55:46,170
that's it for our show today if you miss

1252
00:55:50,180 --> 00:55:48,000
any part of the show you can catch it as

1253
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:50,190
a podcast and you might want to mute

1254
00:55:54,980 --> 00:55:52,650
your mahi and a whole bunch of other

1255
00:55:58,490 --> 00:55:54,990
free podcasts on our website which is

1256
00:56:01,400 --> 00:55:58,500
podcast UFO calm and you can check out

1257
00:56:03,260 --> 00:56:01,410
links in our show notes and I want to

1258
00:56:05,180 --> 00:56:03,270
thank some people today of course I want

1259
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:05,190
to thank Sheila aliens or Sheila Martin

1260
00:56:08,510 --> 00:56:05,970
for joining us

1261
00:56:11,900 --> 00:56:08,520
Keith Roland for producer of the dark

1262
00:56:14,030 --> 00:56:11,910
matter radio network and Carrie Lloyd

1263
00:56:15,950 --> 00:56:14,040
Whitehouse for our music petty Peggy

1264
00:56:20,300 --> 00:56:15,960
shunning for managing our Facebook page

1265
00:56:21,770 --> 00:56:20,310
you can check us out next week and live

1266
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:21,780
right here on the Dark Matter radio